Are black men really bigger?

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freedomm said:
Do black men tend to have bigger, rounder and meatier butts than whites and Asians? Obviously true as it's something people can see even with clothes on. Now, do all black men have big butts? No. In fact there are many who are flat-assed. But doesn't change the clearly evident fact that black men's butts tend to be bigger. And of course there are white men with rounder asses than the average black guy, but it's not the norm.

Same case can be applied to dicks. On average black men have bigger penises.
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Yes and blacks also have bigger lips and noses too. Some things are clearly visible and no data is required. Black men tend to have skinnier calves than white etc but there are always people that don't fit the norm. I'm a black man who's told I don't have a black looking nose same as Angelina Jolie has lips like a typical black woman and yet she's white but not the norm. I think there might be slightly more big dicked black men out there but not in the huge numbers people think. Black guys with big dicks are more likely to show them online and date women that love big dicks. Black men with small dicks avoid women that love big dicks and will avoid being naked in front of other men. I went on a trip with mostly black guys and there was an opportunity to shower before going home. Everyone wanted to shower until they saw it was one big shower room with no cubicles. Only two guys used the showers. I've also seen black guys shy away from women that look for big black dicks obviously knowing they wont measure up. I've dated black women that only date black men and they've said without me prompting them that my dick was the biggest they've ever seen! And I'm far from a monster cock. I've heard another black girl in a club complaining that she just wants a man that's at least 6inches
Jay-E said:
Provide some data with your generalizations. By that way of thinking, on average, black men are also over 6 feet tall and are basketball players as well.
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BuckyD said:
I can understand that living in a warmer climate might select for lower hanging balls as the whole point of external testes in mammals is so that their temperature is slightly below the core body temperature which is apprently important for the development of viable sperm cells. I don't see why a warmer climate would select for a longer flaccid penis length however and indeed southern China and south Asia in general have hot climates and are not populated by males with the reputation of having large flaccid penises. Long flaccid penises must be an adaptation to some other factor or factors besides equatorial climate.

I suspect that penis size, like secondary sexual characteristics such as hairy chests, facial hair, breast and hip size etc are strongly influenced by the preferences and interests of the opposite sex within specific cultural contexts. These contexts emerge as a reciprocal adaptation between human societies and the environment in which they live and the methods by which they amass the disposable agricultural surplus that allows them to survive as a group.

As an example, I have seen the theory expressed that blond hair developed in early scandinavian societies at a time of a huge sex ratio imbalance when there were many more women than men due to so many males being killed off young in war. Blond hair in women was a rather novel characteristic that enabled them to compete successfully for the attention and support of the limited supply of males according to this theory.
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A scientific study thinks a longer flaccid penis may have been selected purely or attracting a mate. If females picked males with longer penises then it becomes a selection pressure for bigger flaccid penises even though it serves no biological function. This study was conducted because the human male has the biggest penis of any primate and there is no biological reason for it so its believed to be based on attraction like a matting display. So we should all be running around flopping our dicks out lol
 
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Jay-E said:
As a light skin black who has been sexually sized up against dark skinned blacks and discriminated in the gay community, no, it wasn’t this bad back in the day.

It seemed to have gotten worse over the years, probably the gay media and porn industries is to blame, but as I got older and my cock actually got bigger, I attracted less bottoms and was passed up for darker skinned dudes whenever I had interaction with gays.

It got so bad, that I can’t even be around too many gays in a room at once, because they feed into these sexual stereotypes. I prefer low-key bisexual dudes these days as sexual companions.

And I’ve been with quite a few hung guys, the largest guy I was with (dick, balls, the whole nine) was white. The second largest guy I was with, was the first guy I picked up from a bar (who was half Latin / half Italian) when I just turned 21.
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But who is the discrimination by white men or black men? Remember this goes both ways. Dark skinned men are expected to have massive dicks especially if they are built. Its all dumb. You can be tall muscular and dark and have the smallest dick or you could be short skinny/fat and light and have the biggest dick.
 
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kingmamba73 said:
A scientific study thinks a longer flaccid penis may have been selected purely or attracting a mate. If females picked males with longer penises then it becomes a selection pressure for bigger flaccid penises even though it serves no biological function. This study was conducted because the human male has the biggest penis of any primate and there is no biological reason for it so its believed to be based on attraction like a matting display. So we should all be running around flopping our dicks out lol
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I don’t believe that study is correct. I believe larger human penis size is due to a combination of factors:
1) Humans have a larger buttox and women especially store more fat there. It’s easier for intercourse if the penis is longer.
2) Humans evolved larger head sizes. Larger heads on babies required vagina to expand larger. This in turn allowed accommodation of larger penis and so large penis did not die out from natural selection.
3) Humans are bipedal and have longer legs. Also easier for intercourse with longer penis (think horses).
4) Penis size may be like beards, deeper voice in that they evolved bigger to intimidate other males, not to attract females. Have you noticed guys care way more about dick size on average than women do?

Also, there doesn’t seem to be an inherent desire in women for large penis. It’s more of an “acquired taste” influenced by culture and porn. Anecdotal, but I’ve found most inexperienced women don’t care about dick size and especially not huge ones. Then, as they get older, more experienced, watch more porn, and a cuckhold Bf or size-queen gay friend brings it up often, they start to crave big.
 
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freedomm said:
I can't provide data, which is why I gave the circumstancial example of butts, which also have no data. Everybody can see it even if they can't quote a study. I bet you would've have denied it if we couldn't see it through clothes. Same as dicks, stereotypes don't start out of thin air. Are Asian men generally shorter and skinnier than most other men? Sure. But you wouldn't know it from looking at sumo wrestlers.
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no no
don't mix the people being skinny with penis size
penis size fantasm is by root racist
blond hair of some European it comes from genetics
skinny people come from habits , what people eat. if you are used to eat fat from centuries 1000s of years i guess your body adapted
furthermore for actual size of people , there is a very slight mix of different human races (the real ones not the color non sense): in Europe there was mix with huge neandertal and some in asia with two other but even this ... with migration of populations it is different from region to region (and now since people move a lot from people to people)
the way you eat can change your body
there is nothing that can change your penis size (not speaking about hormones but natural things) i guess
 
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SaintGirth said:
I don’t believe that study is correct. I believe larger human penis size is due to a combination of factors:
1) Humans have a larger buttox and women especially store more fat there. It’s easier for intercourse if the penis is longer.
2) Humans evolved larger head sizes. Larger heads on babies required vagina to expand larger. This in turn allowed accommodation of larger penis and so large penis did not die out from natural selection.
3) Humans are bipedal and have longer legs. Also easier for intercourse with longer penis (think horses).
4) Penis size may be like beards, deeper voice in that they evolved bigger to intimidate other males, not to attract females. Have you noticed guys care way more about dick size on average than women do?

Also, there doesn’t seem to be an inherent desire in women for large penis. It’s more of an “acquired taste” influenced by culture and porn. Anecdotal, but I’ve found most inexperienced women don’t care about dick size and especially not huge ones. Then, as they get older, more experienced, watch more porn, and a cuckhold Bf or size-queen gay friend brings it up often, they start to crave big.
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The study is about large flaccid penis size not erect. Large flaccid size has nothing to do with reproduction as lots of animals and humans go from almost no penis to a long penis. What humans find attractive changes over time. When I was at school women wanted their asses to be as small and flat as possible with huge tits and thin lips. Big penises have always been an attraction. If you look at old ancient art particularly African you will see lots of sculptures and statues with huge penises. This is the same in mexico, india , japan etc, and this is wayyyy before porn was a thing.
 
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kingmamba73 said:
A scientific study thinks a longer flaccid penis may have been selected purely or attracting a mate. If females picked males with longer penises then it becomes a selection pressure for bigger flaccid penises even though it serves no biological function. This study was conducted because the human male has the biggest penis of any primate and there is no biological reason for it so its believed to be based on attraction like a matting display. So we should all be running around flopping our dicks out lol
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I think this is probably closer to the truth than a lot of the other theories that have been floating around on here.
 
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kingmamba73 said:
The study is about large flaccid penis size not erect. Large flaccid size has nothing to do with reproduction as lots of animals and humans go from almost no penis to a long penis. What humans find attractive changes over time. When I was at school women wanted their asses to be as small and flat as possible with huge tits and thin lips. Big penises have always been an attraction. If you look at old ancient art particularly African you will see lots of sculptures and statues with huge penises. This is the same in mexico, india , japan etc, and this is wayyyy before porn was a thing.
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Larger flaccid = larger erect *on average* between species. Also see my argument about intimidating other males.

Ancient Greeece looked down on big penises. A lot of that African art was done by men. You cannot convince me women in hunter gathering tribes craved large cock. It’s highly unlikely.
 
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st2000 said:
penis size fantasm is by root racist
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I doubt it. All the things that people claim to be racist, existed way before modern culture existed.
Big penis fantasies are even in the bible and how old is this text?
She remembered her lover with the penis like a donkey and a flood of semen like a horse.
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Ezekiel 23:20​


And the bible was influenced by Sumer, Babylon and Ancient Egypt etc.

All the stuff that people claim that they have their root in racism as colonialism, imperialism, slavery etc. are in religious books like the bible, the quran or ancient Hindu text (when the Gods were on earth).

They claim those text were inspired by higher beings. But they were sadly both negatively and positively inspired.

kingmamba73 said:
. Big penises have always been an attraction. If you look at old ancient art particularly African you will see lots of sculptures and statues with huge penises. This is the same in mexico, india , japan etc, and this is wayyyy before porn was a thing.
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I, agree, I think this is a fetish. People around the planet are pretty similar.

That does not mean you cannot overcome the biases of society. But instead of discussing who has the bigger dick. We can also unbias us from the dick size and other physical characteristics.

That is easier than convince members that races have similar penis sizes. And the end result is that race and look does not matter.

SaintGirth said:
Ancient Greeece looked down on big penises. A lot of that African art was done by men. You cannot convince me women in hunter gathering tribes craved large cock. It’s highly unlikely.
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Probably not in hunter gathering tribes but that topic is very old. There is a quote in the bible. I quoted it above. But I dont know if that was written by men. At least the text is about a woman.
 
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kingmamba73 said:
But who is the discrimination by white men or black men? Remember this goes both ways. Dark skinned men are expected to have massive dicks especially if they are built. Its all dumb. You can be tall muscular and dark and have the smallest dick or you could be short skinny/fat and light and have the biggest dick.
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Nicely put, and its been my experience as well, you can't judge the size of a cock by the color of a guy's skin or the size shoe he wears - oh and don't do yourself down man, you have a nice impressive set of equipment
 
The black women that I have had sex with have pretty much had the same kind of reaction to my cock as white women. Surprise, generally. The couple of them who did elaborate, it was the same comparison to a recent ex that some women will offer. That's not a study or anything, but from what women have said to me, black guys aren't all walking around with giant cocks at any higher rate than white guys.
 
TinyPrincess said:
It would be great with data on this - unfortunately this article is based on the Kinsey Report which is extremly flawed to put is nicely.
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meh

Humans think in stories rather than in facts, numbers or equations, and the simpler the story, the better. Maybe that's why this thread is five years old and still going strong. No study will ever settle anything.
 
kingmamba73 said:
But who is the discrimination by white men or black men? Remember this goes both ways. Dark skinned men are expected to have massive dicks especially if they are built. Its all dumb. You can be tall muscular and dark and have the smallest dick or you could be short skinny/fat and light and have the biggest dick.
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I hate to say this, and this might set off someone on here, but from my experience, it’s usually the white cis-gays who do this the most. Other black dudes never seem to have these pre-consumptions.
 
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heinz.friedrich said:
I doubt it. All the things that people claim to be racist, existed way before modern culture existed.
Big penis fantasies are even in the bible and how old is this text?

Ezekiel 23:20​


And the bible was influenced by Sumer, Babylon and Ancient Egypt etc.

All the stuff that people claim that they have their root in racism as colonialism, imperialism, slavery etc. are in religious books like the bible, the quran or ancient Hindu text (when the Gods were on earth).

They claim those text were inspired by higher beings. But they were sadly both negatively and positively inspired.


I, agree, I think this is a fetish. People around the planet are pretty similar.

That does not mean you cannot overcome the biases of society. But instead of discussing who has the bigger dick. We can also unbias us from the dick size and other physical characteristics.

That is easier than convince members that races have similar penis sizes. And the end result is that race and look does not matter.



Probably not in hunter gathering tribes but that topic is very old. There is a quote in the bible. I quoted it above. But I dont know if that was written by men. At least the text is about a woman.
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Also the term race is scientifically incorrect as "Human" is our race we are all different ethnicities. If we were different races we wouldn't be able to breed and produce fertile young. It's like dogs. All are dogs but they look different but can all breed with each other because they are the same race. Cats are not the same race as dogs and so cannot breed with each other. We are all just variations of the same race to suit the environments we evolved in.
 
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kingmamba73 said:
Also the term race is scientifically incorrect as "Human" is our race we are all different ethnicities. If we were different races we wouldn't be able to breed and produce fertile young. It's like dogs. All are dogs but they look different but can all breed with each other because they are the same race. Cats are not the same race as dogs and so cannot breed with each other. We are all just variations of the same race to suit the environments we evolved in.
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Race has multiple definitions.

Race in this sense is referring to ancestry, usually based in continents, e.g. African ancestry, European ancestry, Asian ancestry, etc. Ethnicity is a subset of that. I don’t think anyone actually thinks that humans (homo sapien sapiens) are different species.
 
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The most important thing for everyone to know is this:

"Race" for humans is not physically real, and it hasn't been for thousands of years. People get around and mix it up.

"Race" is real as a meme, but there is only one purpose and reason for being of the idea of "race:" that is, to divide people up and inevitably divide them against each other.

Ancestry is real. Genetics is real. Human migrations are real. But "race" is not.
 
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