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Ammm yeah but how about these devs show some good faith and they pause their patreon pages?!
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He could've paused his Patreon because of that week he took off, yeah. But he can only pause for a whole month, and to pause a whole month of pledges because he took a week off doesn't sound fair imo. Man's got bills to pay. I also read his post an I believe him tbh, straight up admits he was fucking losing it and I respect that. And we finally got a deadline!
- Jun 24, 2018
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Not gonna lie, I envy your ability to oversimplify everything. I wish the word really was that simple.
By the way, what do you mean when you say "Been there"? Have you been a dev? Have you been burnout/overwhelmed for a game/project that thousands of people have been waiting? Have you ever converted a Renpy game into a full Steam game?
- Aug 4, 2020
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Give the dev some room to breathe. He can take some time off. Seems to me he is seriously burned out.
No need to scream MILKING ...
If you are subscribed to him. Remove your sub and wait for him to get back ... or dont. Its your choice
I get that some other devs milk their fans and show nothing for it and just delay, delay and delay. But not ever dev is like that.
Lewdlab has just lost interest due to burnout. He will chill and take some time off and will return.
Simply unsub from his patreon and wait for him to come back.
That being said, Lewdlab deserves criticism. Poor communication and not being clear with us.
He should just be str8 with us and tell us his plans, so we are not in the dark.
Im especially upset about the the release (definitive edition) which was scheduled for March 2021...
And seeing midnight paradise being "onhold" is heartbreaking
But we gotta keep it cool.
No need to scream MILKING ...
If you are subscribed to him. Remove your sub and wait for him to get back ... or dont. Its your choice
I get that some other devs milk their fans and show nothing for it and just delay, delay and delay. But not ever dev is like that.
Lewdlab has just lost interest due to burnout. He will chill and take some time off and will return.
Simply unsub from his patreon and wait for him to come back.
That being said, Lewdlab deserves criticism. Poor communication and not being clear with us.
He should just be str8 with us and tell us his plans, so we are not in the dark.
Im especially upset about the the release (definitive edition) which was scheduled for March 2021...
And seeing midnight paradise being "onhold" is heartbreaking
But we gotta keep it cool.
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- Aug 10, 2021
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No, I haven't been a college dropout smut game dev, but I've been something way more than that in a place where you just can't ditch everything and leave on a vacation and pretend you have a burnout when ever you feel like it, but instead clench your teeth and finish your job first so the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, who are waiting the project to be done will be satisfied. And I don't really know why you think that the coding part even matters here, since it's done by his coder Maim Lain, and all Dr. Sin does these days is the rendering. But hey, it's reaaaaaaally hard work to just wait your computer getting the renders done.
According to Dr. Sin himself "one week" vacation was enough to fix his "burnout" so that he is ready to work again. Yeah, burnouts don't really work that way, since the recovery takes between one and three years generally, if not even longer. So either he was on vacation the whole time he didn't say anything and kept collecting paychecks, or then he just made up another excuse/lie alongside with others. He is pretty good at that these days.
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We will never know. We can only take his word on it
I hope this is not the case tho... it would be truely sad if even part of what you said is correct
But we will see. He has give a clear release date for Dreams of Desire DE for October 20th
This will be the telling point (at least for me)
- Jun 24, 2018
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Not gonna lie, this time unironically, this is a way more interesting answer than what I was expecting. I didn't know he had a coder, that's a good point. Now I would like to ask, was that project of yours your own project and you were doing it on your own will? Or where you in a shitty job where you have to stand a shitty boss screaming at you all the time if you want to get your pay check at the end of the month? Because there's a whole of difference there. Also, if you really think that just clenching your teeths and keep working is the healthy/right answer to that situation, then I no wonder why you're so angry.No, I haven't been a college dropout smut game dev, but I've been something way more than that in a place where you just can't ditch everything and leave on a vacation and pretend you have a burnout when ever you feel like it, but instead clench your teeth and finish your job first so the hundreds of thousands, if not millions of people, who are waiting the project to be done will be satisfied. And I don't really know why you think that the coding part even matters here, since it's done by his coder Maim Lain, and all Dr. Sin does these days is the rendering. But hey, it's reaaaaaaally hard work to just wait your computer getting the renders done.
According to Dr. Sin himself "one week" vacation was enough to fix his "burnout" so that he is ready to work again. Yeah, burnouts don't really work that way, since the recovery takes between one and three years generally, if not even longer. So either he was on vacation the whole time he didn't say anything and kept collecting paychecks, or then he just made up another excuse/lie alongside with others. He is pretty good at that these days.
Then you're just being ignorant for the sake of defending your argument. Yes waiting for a single render to be done isn't that hard, and I can only imagine how good his pc must be so it probably doesn't take that much time either. What does take time is waiting for the whoooole animation to render, because he said that he's doing 500 animation and that is quite a lot of time (assuming that amount is true of course) but what takes even more time is actually creating the animations that he'll render. I've heard more than a dev (who isn't/wasn't burnout) that one single animation took a week.
Lastly, that's not how a burnout works or how you recover from one. It seems like you don't know anything about mental health. I wonder if you actually ever find yourself in a situation where you had to "clench your teeth and finish your job" in the first place, or maybe you where in that situation but you didn't learn anything from it. I'm leaning towards the latter.
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Was that project my own? Not completely my own, just like it's not with Lewdlab either as he shares it with four different people. Was I doing it on my own will? Of course, it was my passion and a thing I loved. Was it a shitty job with a shitty boss? Hell no! Like I said, I loved it, every moment of it. And yes, clenching the teeth and working through it until the project got done was the only option, as in real world you can't just wipe your ass with deadlines and responsibilities.
How long does it take to render doesn't matter now does it, since it's the computer doing the work, and not the man himself. He can rest etc. while the computer is rendering them, that's not something you can call a hard work. Not even close.
Lastly, that is how burnouts actually works. You clearly have never been burnout, and it shows since you don't know what you are talking about. I have been, I pushed through hell of a project for three years with minimal rest and maximum focus so I could get the best results out for the people who paid my employees salaries. And I can tell you, it took WAY MORE than just one week vacation to get healed from it, hell I couldn't do anything for over a year, not even if I wanted to do. I was on a doctors ordered sickleave for nearly three years. After the little bit over the first year I was only able to return to somewhat more normal life, yet I still wasn't fully recovered from it, not even close. That's why I call bullshit when these dudes who render 3D CGI pictures complains about being "burnout" and say they are recovered after "one week vacation" or so. That's not a burnout, that's just you being exhausted. Don't say you are burnout when you don't even know what a burnout actually is.
I don't even know why I'm answering to you in a first place anymore, since you don't even know how Lewdlab works these days, yet you still talk and defend him like you would know how he works.
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Of course it's his own project. It doesn't matter if he works with other people. It is his game and his project, if he wakes up one day and fells like never working on it again, his team isn't a company where someone else will take the leadership, everything his team can say is say "GG" and never work on it too.
Again, you're just being ignorant for the sake of defending your argument. Of course it matter how long it takes. He being delayed is the whole reason why we're talking right here and now, isn't it? It takes even more time doing the animation, because those 500 animation are new. I think he has two PCs so he can render with one and work with the other, when do you want him to "rest" if aniamtions "don't take that long" and he has to watch and use two pc at the same time? You're being ignorant and mean just for the sake of justifying the unhealthy way you acted back them.
Lastly about burnouts, it seems like I was right, sadly. If you went though that shitty situations and you think that others should "clench your teeth and finish your job" like you did and went thought that 1-3 shitty years like you did, then yes, you clearly didn't learn anything from your experience. Not because you had a bad time means that other should have a bad time too or that their suffering must be the same kind of yours or that can't be called suffering.
By the way, I don't know why you're answering. I'm answering to show that not everyone thinks the worse like you do, but most importantly, I'm not saying that I know everything, I'm saying that you clearly don't know everything either, yet you think yo do and assume the worse of everyone. Your idea is that he's bullshiting people, my idea is none of us knows enough to know that so we just chill and wait for now.
All of this will probably get reported and deleted, so maybe none of this matter in the long run.
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One week 'recovery' is a really bad project deadline, with multiple all-nighters, in the course of a month or two. One MONTH 'recovery' is exhausted; meaning the LITERAL: "I cannot get out of bed because there is no energy in the tank".
Multiple vacations over a 9 or 10 month period, with no work provable being performed, is: "I make enough off you simps to do whatever I want, so you'll get what I give you when you suck it enough." 'Cuz if a real job did that to you? You'd quit and sue the employer for abuse. 'Nuff said.
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I hope he will not cut some contenents from DOD DE for releasing it on 20th October
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Like it or not, that is an animation:
But most importantly, and what're talking about, have in mind that this game started in 2017. These animations were the best thing you could ask back then.
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In fact, this is incorrect.
Back then, it was the USUAL animation but not the BEST. Some dev could do better than that.
An example: Kelly's Family: Mother in Law by K84
And animations are one of the things holding up the release of the definitive edition of DoD and stopping progress on his new game. I hear they will look great if we ever get to see them, maybe October...
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