Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Doubt's sixth studio album (2nd nomination)
- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. CitiCat ♫ 02:04, 30 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- No Doubt's sixth studio album (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View log)
Previously deleted (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/No Doubt's sixth studio album). This version's not much different. It's some quotes saying that they liked performing and that they're happy to be making a new album. Still no release date has been announced, no song titles, only that Spike Stent has been at the sessions. The last reference (which provides no actual information anyway) is unreliable. The {{db-repost}} template was removed by Haemo with the edit summary "substanitally (sic) different, and more sourced, than the deleted version -- suggest WP:AFD instead?". 17Drew 00:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
It's more reliable than the other article, so you can not say "not much different." you have to let other people edit No Doubt and Gwen sometime :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Anthonyeatworld (talk • contribs) 01:03, August 23, 2007 (UTC).
- There's a difference between "allowing" people to edit articles (as if I were any sort of authority) and deleting an article full of non-information such as "I don’t think I will make another solo album. I can’t predict anything." 17Drew 01:15, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Verify notability, or delete - announcements directly from an author or artist don't qualify as appropriate references. We need to point to references from reliable third-party sources, like a major magazine or newspaper article. See Wikipedia:No original research#Primary, secondary, and tertiary sources. The Transhumanist 01:14, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What? An artist is not a reliable source for information about their work? Atropos 06:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think The Transhumanist is referring to the fact that articles can use primary sources, but that primary sources do not establish the notability of the article. 17Drew 23:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I hope so. Otherwise, what he said makes no sense.
- Been seeing eachother everywhere. Crazy, eh? Atropos 05:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- I think The Transhumanist is referring to the fact that articles can use primary sources, but that primary sources do not establish the notability of the article. 17Drew 23:59, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- What? An artist is not a reliable source for information about their work? Atropos 06:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete, no third party sources seem to have reported it yet. Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps•Review?) 01:25, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:CRYSTAL. - eo 01:39, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete - What is the fascination with writing articles on things that haven't happened yet? If you want to be the first to create a page, there are gazillions of things that exist that need pages. Speciate 02:06, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete wikipedia is not a crystal ball. Oysterguitarist 06:16, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per WP:CRYSTAL and lack of sources. Seth Bresnett • (talk) 09:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
fine, fine ok. delete the page, and you do sorta not let anyone edit no doubt, you monitor them and make sure it's perfect, if you don't like it it's gone! and is it YOU (drew) who keeps editing gwen's ablums and changing the genre to R&B? (she is clearly not R&B) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.202.177.5 (talk) 13:44, August 23, 2007 (UTC)
- If you have an issue with my editing, please let me know. But AfD is not dispute resolution. 17Drew 18:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- Delete per my arguments on the 1st nomination.--JForget 23:34, 23 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
i have a problem with you generally. gwen stefani isnt bloody R&B!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthonyeatworld (talk • contribs) 00:57, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
- And this has what to do with the No Doubt's sixth studio album article? 17Drew 01:35, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- KEEP - While, yes this is an article about a future or upcoming album which has yet to be produced or released, the article clearly states that. If this were by a non-notable artist, I would agree with "delete", but since this future event warranted coverage by MTV, and the band in question is clearly notable, it's worthy of an article. If, in fact, the information changes or it never happens, the article can be edited to reflect that. NOTE: The article can definately use a little clean-up to make it sound more encyclopaedic. --BaldDee 16:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.